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Old 01-05-2012, 10:45 PM   #16
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Am I the only one who feels like this is far too little and way too late to keep them afloat? Especially considering their borrowing concerns and troubles in maintaining and taking on billions of dollars of more debt.
Also, isn't the 1900mhz spectrum terrible for building penetration?
I think they'll manage to stay afloat, but it's not going to help them win any wars against the other carriers. Too little too late has been Sprint's way of life for too long.

The 1900mhz isn't as bad as the 2500 that they use now for WiMax, but it's certainly not as good as the 800ish that others are using. Sprint will need to start using their 800 band pretty fast, because otherwise, the average customer is going to think "hmm...Sprint's 4G sucks compared to AT&T's and Verizon's." Not that they don't already think that, but still.
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Old 01-05-2012, 10:54 PM   #17
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Am I the only one who feels like this is far too little and way too late to keep them afloat? Especially considering their borrowing concerns and troubles in maintaining and taking on billions of dollars of more debt.
Also, isn't the 1900mhz spectrum terrible for building penetration?
Sprint can even go bankrupt and it will still keep operating. It will be run by the bankruptcy court and get bought out and be in much better shape without the debt. So, from a customer standpoint, it doesnt matter. The only folks who should be concerned are shareholders.
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:01 PM   #18
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The only folks who should be concerned are shareholders.
Well, and the creditors. And haven't long term investors already lost something like 80% or more of their stock value?
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:23 PM   #19
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Well, and the creditors. And haven't long term investors already lost something like 80% or more of their stock value?
True, true. And perhaps employees. But customers are the last folks that need to worry.
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Am I the only one who feels like this is far too little and way too late to keep them afloat? Especially considering their borrowing concerns and troubles in maintaining and taking on billions of dollars of more debt.
Also, isn't the 1900mhz spectrum terrible for building penetration?
Too little too late? Not even close. Sprint is no where near hitting bottom. Sprint could easily borrow another few billion to keep operations going.

And the 1900 freq should provide more than adequate reception indoors, unlike their Wimax service.
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Too little too late? Not even close. Sprint is no where near hitting bottom. Sprint could easily borrow another few billion to keep operations going.

And the 1900 freq should provide more than adequate reception indoors, unlike their Wimax service.
And since 1900 coverage is going to improve drastically with Network Vision, it will be even better. Radios installed up high behind the panels are going to significantly improve building penetration and distance.
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And it didn't matter which cities were announced first, someone somewhere will feel entitled and think their city should be first, and get on the rag over it for reason XYZ.

Personally, I'm glad to see Sprint announcing any city at all. We also see Sprint is still committed to android with the Galaxy Nexus (despite the mouth breathers swearing up and down Sprint would become an "apple shop"), and we get LTE.

Good news indeed.
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:52 AM   #23
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Personally, I'm glad to see Sprint announcing any city at all. We also see Sprint is still committed to android with the Galaxy Nexus (despite the mouth breathers swearing up and down Sprint would become an "apple shop&quot, and we get LTE.

Good news indeed.
Well, Sprint needs to be an apple shop to make the iPhone profitable. Otherwise they just spent billions on yet another white elephant project (WiMax, anyone?).
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Lets face it.... According to most reports stocks have been a bad investment for 30 years. Bonds have proven to yield better.

Why even bother with the stock market.
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Old 01-06-2012, 01:43 PM   #25
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Lets face it.... According to most reports stocks have been a bad investment for 30 years. Bonds have proven to yield better.

Why even bother with the stock market.
Unless you bought 1,000 shares of Apple when they were $8/share then saw your stocks split to 2,000 shares and then saw the price climb to over $400... And not only Apple, plenty of other stocks have had meteoric rises as well. You just have to know how to pick better. I did very well also on my Universal Display stock (PANL) bought it at $7 and now it is at about $36 in just a few short years. They hold a lot of OLED patents. When I first learned about OLED before it was even widely known about 7 years ago I just googled which companies were involved and bought the stock. I didn't listen to any analysts, just used common sense.
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:03 AM   #26
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You just have to know how to pick better.
Yeah, that's why most stock funds run by professional stock pickers underperform the major indexes over any significant time period. Guess the pros, unlike you, don't have any "common sense".

If you did what you said with Apple, congratulations. If it had been a certainty that Apple was going to take off everyone would have bought it. It wasn't. And for every person that got rich on Apple or other stocks that had meteoric rises there are many that lost their shirts on other glitzy stocks that had similar prospects. Lots of companies that have hot technologies, great marketing, etc. have their stocks go nowhere. Putting all your investment eggs in one (or a few) baskets is very risky.
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If you ask me, Nextel network needs to be dismantled before 2013. Take a look at this article and see how much the the 800Mhz deployment will enhance coverage. http://s4gru.spruz.com/pt/New-Networ...today/blog.htm
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If you ask me, Nextel network needs to be dismantled before 2013. Take a look at this article and see how much the the 800Mhz deployment will enhance coverage. http://s4gru.spruz.com/pt/New-Networ...today/blog.htm
It would be nice if we all could get that asap. Unfortunately, we will have to wait for the completion of NV. Some will gey it sooner than others as they activate NV market by market. The map you are referring to is Atlanta, so they will be one of the first.
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If AT&T's wireless HQ is in Atlanta, it's right in their backyard.
AT&T & VZW already have LTE here so i'm sure they don't care. And I didnt even realize LTE was going to be on 1900 mhz..that pretty much kills my interest. That means it'll barely work inside here just like the wimax since clear's tower is actually closer than Sprints. Oh well, I won't be making any impulsive buys on my sprint line this year.

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AT&T & VZW already have LTE here so i'm sure they don't care. And I didnt even realize LTE was going to be on 1900 mhz..that pretty much kills my interest. That means it'll barely work inside here just like the wimax since clear's tower is actually closer than Sprints. Oh well, I won't be making any impulsive buys on my sprint line this year.
Under Network Vision, PCS 1900 spectrum is going to perform much better than it has in the past. With the radios up high behind the panels, the signal is going to penetrate better and travel farther. If you look at the link above you can see some before and after example photos.

Also, Sprint will be deploying LTE on 800MHz in 2013 as they decomission the iDEN network. Things are definitely turning better for the Sprint network in the future.
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