4 Year Old Dies After Falling Over Side Of Grand Canyon

Studintx · 10-11-2007, 12:54 PM

The family was walking along a path, soaking in the breathtaking views. Seconds later their 4-year-old girl went tumbling down the canyon.

Park Service employee Karyl Yeston said "We immediately put rescuers over the edge on ropes to access her. She was quite a ways down."
The little girl was with her family near Mather Point. A guardrail surrounds the overlook. But head down the path and there isn't one, just the steep and rugged cliffs.

Yeston said "It's steep..."

The paved path is only about 15 feet from the canyon's edge. Park officials are still unsure if the little girl wandered away or if the family walked close to the rim to look over.

Call to 911 came pouring in as her father raced down the mountain.

"The father immediately went over after her and started CPR," said Yeston.

Hours later, the Marshall family shows up from Washington D.C. for their first visit to the Grand Canyon.

Michael Marshall said "You know, everybody's thinking about that. You bring kids up here, you just want to hang on to them."

Park officials say they respond to about 2 to 3 fatal falls every year, but the little girl is the first young child to die in more than 20 years.

It's a terrible tragedy that is now under investigation.

By NBC.

**thesonofgray** · 10-11-2007, 05:53 PM

Unfortunate, but you can't expect a 4 year old to understand the dangers of the Grand Canyon.

This reminds me of a REALLY good book about deaths in the Grand Canyon. I know it sounds very morbid, but it's actually very very interesting. Check it out here.

**MidwestDrummer** · 10-12-2007, 12:54 AM

When it's a tourist attraction as large and as popular as the Grand Canyon, there needs to be a set boundary with a firm established barrier that prevents people from even getting to the rim without having to climb over said barrier.

*some18mybrain* · 10-12-2007, 06:05 AM

I know it's probably said all the time, but weren't her parents watching her??

**IncredibleLee** · 10-12-2007, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by some18mybrain

I know it's probably said all the time, but weren't her parents watching her??

Easier said than done. You can't watch them every single minute of the day but in an area that is obviously a little out of the norm and a wee bit dangerous to boot, I would have thought they would have exercised a bit more care. This is a tragedy and I'm trying not to criticize but

**ikandi** · 10-12-2007, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by IncredibleLee

Easier said than done. You can't watch them every single minute of the day but in an area that is obviously a little out of the norm and a wee bit dangerous to boot, I would have thought they would have exercised a bit more care. This is a tragedy and I'm trying not to criticize but

Exactly, you would think the father or mother would have held her hand

mjohns2 · 10-12-2007, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ikandi

Exactly, you would think the father or mother would have held her hand

That's exactly what I was thinking.

**icsedge1** · 10-12-2007, 10:36 AM

barricades would destroy the awesome natural beauty. parents must take care of little ones. it's that simple.

Sedge

Aleko · 10-12-2007, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikandi

Exactly, you would think the father or mother would have held her hand

Quote:

Originally Posted by icsedge1

parents must take care of little ones. it's that simple.

Obviously spoken by someone who doesn't have kids...

Yes, parents should be watching them and they do, but as has been mentioned before, you can't do it every second, especially if you have more than one child. And believe me, it doesn't take more than a few seconds for kids (especially of that age) to get in trouble. I'm usually all for criticizing parents for not paying enough attention to their kids and not laying the blame on someobody else, but in this case, I think the "Grand Canyon management" is just as much at fault for not providing enough barricades.

Quixote42 · 10-12-2007, 11:42 AM

having had a rather active child myself, it is impossible to be on them all the time. a child has the ability to slip from your hand and be god knows where in a split second. If I didn't know better I would have sworn my child ciuld teleport. While parents have to be more reponsible and you can never push off care for your child on another. The reponsibility lies somewhere in the middle between the facility for making it safe and the parents for ensuring the child's safety.

**IncredibleLee** · 10-12-2007, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quixote42

having had a rather active child myself, it is impossible to be on them all the time. a child has the ability to slip from your hand and be god knows where in a split second. If I didn't know better I would have sworn my child ciuld teleport. While parents have to be more reponsible and you can never push off care for your child on another. The reponsibility lies somewhere in the middle between the facility for making it safe and the parents for ensuring the child's safety.

Amen amen...lol. There needs to be a happy medium in there. And I do not know if they had more children - you cannot hold on to ALL of them at the same time. This still makes me sooooooooooooo but it hurts no one worse than the parents. It is easy for us to criticize after the fact.

Quixote42 · 10-12-2007, 12:22 PM

exactly, it is always easy to critisize without all the facts. It does just scare people tho and make people think.

**JSMZ** · 10-12-2007, 12:23 PM

Yeah, I have a kid. You cant watch them ALL the time, but when your 15 feet away from a cliff that drops off a mile into the earth you damn well better make sure you know where your kid is and what their doing. If not, your a horrible parent.

**IncredibleLee** · 10-12-2007, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSMZ

Yeah, I have a kid. You cant watch them ALL the time, but when your 15 feet away from a cliff that drops off a mile into the earth you damn well better make sure you know where your kid is and what their doing. If not, your a horrible parent.

Or a really great parent who made a horrible mistake.

Quixote42 · 10-12-2007, 12:49 PM

I wish I lived in your world where all parents are perfect. I know that I have made mistakes and am sure I will make more. Look at the general state toward children today though, everything is blamed on the parents if the slightest thing happens. Today children dont have neighborhoods, they make playdates. They are protected from the slightest thing going wrong. I seem to recall that when I, at least, was young that bumps and bruises and such were a part of life. Now if a kid gets a scratch, he has bad parents. What has changed? Are parents held to perfect standards now or are children just not expected to experience life? Do NOT take this as an endorsement of the parents behaviour, but parents are only human. They were taking their child to a place to educate and share with their child. Is a parent that leaves there kid in front of an XBox a better parent because their children never are in danger?

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Quixote42 Telephone User Join Date: Sep 23, '07 Location: Minnesota Posts: 224 Phone: ppc-6800 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts SU$: 712	exactly, it is always easy to critisize without all the facts. It does just scare people tho and make people think. __________________ Line 1: Motorola StarTac (several models) -> AudioVox 9600 -> LG 8600 Line 2 (Work): PPC-6800 (Mogul) Visit the Donation Center if you need SU$ or have extra to donate.

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Quixote42 Telephone User Join Date: Sep 23, '07 Location: Minnesota Posts: 224 Phone: ppc-6800 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts SU$: 712	having had a rather active child myself, it is impossible to be on them all the time. a child has the ability to slip from your hand and be god knows where in a split second. If I didn't know better I would have sworn my child ciuld teleport. While parents have to be more reponsible and you can never push off care for your child on another. The reponsibility lies somewhere in the middle between the facility for making it safe and the parents for ensuring the child's safety.

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Quixote42 Telephone User Join Date: Sep 23, '07 Location: Minnesota Posts: 224 Phone: ppc-6800 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts SU$: 712	I wish I lived in your world where all parents are perfect. I know that I have made mistakes and am sure I will make more. Look at the general state toward children today though, everything is blamed on the parents if the slightest thing happens. Today children dont have neighborhoods, they make playdates. They are protected from the slightest thing going wrong. I seem to recall that when I, at least, was young that bumps and bruises and such were a part of life. Now if a kid gets a scratch, he has bad parents. What has changed? Are parents held to perfect standards now or are children just not expected to experience life? Do NOT take this as an endorsement of the parents behaviour, but parents are only human. They were taking their child to a place to educate and share with their child. Is a parent that leaves there kid in front of an XBox a better parent because their children never are in danger? __________________ Line 1: Motorola StarTac (several models) -> AudioVox 9600 -> LG 8600 Line 2 (Work): PPC-6800 (Mogul) Visit the Donation Center if you need SU$ or have extra to donate.

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